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De monitis

Postby Lucius Livius Seneca » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:10 am

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Re: De monitis

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:02 am

I also think sometimes plurals or abnormal genitives also end up being wrong in magisterial posts (e.g. Apollinis).

Another thing that the Collegium could provide that would be very useful is to give the magistrates easily understood Formats for them to use in official papers. Maybe even using latin legal expressions.

Just brainstorming.
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Re: De monitis

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:57 am

Valete socii!

A very good idea! However the mechanism should be different. Magister is an administrative position, it does not prove or require expertise. Those who should be in charge of the monita should therefore not be the magistri, but the grammatici.

Talking about the names of the collegia, is it historically known that there actually were collegia that had an adjective in their name? Most historical collegia that I am familiar with used the genitive plural of their members, not the adjective, exempli gratia Collegium Pontificum not Collegium Pontificium or Collegium Mercatorum not Collegium Mercatorium. So in our case it would rather be the Collegium Grammaticorum than the Collegium Latinum. Or are there historic examples of collegia with an adjective in the name?

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Re: De monitis

Postby Lucius Livius Seneca » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:45 pm

L. Livius mag. C. Florio sal.

Since there is no Latin qualification required to serve as magistri, you are right, C. Flori, in that they may lack the expertise to evaluate errors themselves. I am hesitant, however, to grant any and every grammaticus (assuming such a position is approved by the College) the authority to issue monita, lest a swarm of admonishing "experts" descend upon an unsuspecting public. Perhaps the magistri refer the question to the consilium grammaticorum, who then respond with their opinion, to be communicated by the magistri to the erring officials? That way the lines of communication remain clear: officialdom↔magistrigrammatici.

As for collegiate nomenclature, historically the format was a plural genitive of members (e.g., Collegium Vinariorum "College of Vinters," Collegium Pistorum "College of Bakers," etc.). Unfortunately, the College membership rejected the idea that we be an organization of professionals, and so Collegium Grammaticorum would be a misnomer, describing a minority of the actual members. For the philosophers, however, Collegium Philosophorum wouldn't be unreasonable.

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