October 24, 2021 at 6:25 pm #41841
I have a unique situation that will be happening over the next few months and was wondering if anyone has any ideas that could help. For the past decade or so I have been living in a somewhat ostentatious house that was acquired on foreclosure when the USA economy fell around that time. Perhaps inspired by my location, I built a website about the Goddess Fortuna and learned how to turn it into a tax exempt California public charity, based out of my home and using my home address as the organization’s headquarters.
I will be moving out of state soon, to a humble cottage in the woods, and when I do the organization will need a “headquarters” address in California. My first thought was to try and buy some inexpensive land that could be used for ritual, and let the organization use it, but land is really not that cheap around here. Does anyone have any ideas for how the organization could continue to be based in California after I leave?
templeoffortuna.comNovember 1, 2021 at 2:42 pm #41950
Numerius Romilius VenustusDenarii: 𐆖 51.95PlebeiusCalifornia Ulterior
Iirc, you need a registered agent in the state you are headquartered in, and that can serve in lieu of (and is required anyway) maintaining an actual address. The registered agent, however, must have an address in the state, and they will likely want to be paid, etc.November 2, 2021 at 7:33 pm #41985
Thank you for your comment 🙂
Yes, agents want to be paid and the reason I have had it as a home-based business is partly because of funding. So many of us appreciate what we don’t have to pay for! I believe it’s human nature …November 2, 2021 at 7:43 pm #41991
Numerius, you’re a citizen of California Ulterior, as I have been! I noticed after posting my detailed board meeting link ….
Is there a location in your region which would be willing to provide the headquarters? Or possibly as an official collaboration with Roman Republic (which I believe is headquartered in Canada and yet I don’t see an official tax exempt status) ? This may involve submitting a name change for the organization and allowing someone else to handle paperwork, as well as steering the content to include a vast amount of Religio material in collaboration with the existing Wicca-based content.
Who may we ask and would you (and one or more people because we need a quorum of at least three) be willing to participate on the board of directors and assist with addressing this topic?
I would dearly love handing off all the responsibilities of keeping the tax-exempt afloat to people who would enjoy the paperwork and tasking. And, perhaps, Res Publica Romana may enjoy absorbing a working tax-exempt status in California if there is a way to work this out? Who would we need to bring aboard this conversation?November 5, 2021 at 7:47 pm #42068
We often envision some office space when we think of a “headquarters”.
In ancient times the Temples were actually their own “headquarters”.
So there is precedent for a ritual space to also be a headquarters. Vacant land, with an address, could be a headquarters with office functions performed online.
Simple.November 7, 2021 at 4:23 am #42082
Appia Claudia HeminaDenarii: 𐆖 146.10PlebeiusCalifornia Ulterior
You can register your non-profit simply at a California PO box. There are several ways to obtain such a mail forwarding service. Your non-profit can either pay someone monthly for this service, or it could register for its own private PO box service. You’ll have to fill out several forms and go through some paperwork, but the process doesn’t require too much time.
Then any mail sent to your California PO box registered with the state is then forwarded to anywhere in the USA. A commercial mail forwarding service will most likely want you to sign up for something in the vicinity of $20-40/mo in order to use their services.
There’s no reason to waste money on a monthly payment if you don’t need to though; many companies offer free PO box services or low-fee PO box services (some as low as $2/mo) for customers who sign up for a long-term contract (12/24/36 months).November 8, 2021 at 5:37 am #42136
Unfortunately, I don’t believe that is the situation. You need a physical address for a tax exempt organization in California USA.
For this organization, we also need a President, Treasurer and Secretary, up to seven board members and optionally a Vice President. The board meeting will be closed by 7pm Pacific Time on Monday, tomorrow, November 8 2021. I need to have an answer by that time.
More importantly, would a Goddess want to live in a post office box? Or at an agent’s address? This is something to consider. She has been living in a lovely house since 2009. I’m not about to shove Her into a post office box or to share quarters with everyone who pays an agent. Better that the organization go down.November 8, 2021 at 4:59 pm #42140
Also, if you pay an agent, through the link above, you can see you will be paying maybe $50 a year and not own anything. If you have access to a few thousand dollars, you can buy land and then you own something. It’s a better investment, particularly if your Goddess is Fortuna, you want to make a wise investment. Fortune favors the bold, etc.
For example, here is a property that is presently offered for camping. It has less than $100 a year in real estate taxes, it costs less than $3000 to buy and hopefully there are not extra fees for home owner’s association that is not necessary.
How much would the monthly payments be if it were put on a loan?
Would it be best to find the cash and just pay for it?
Can it be owned by a group and used for ritual?
Is there any extra cost to modify its usage?
Does the organization purchase it and use it or is it owned by others who allow the organization to use it as an address?
If so, can multiple organizations have similar permissions to use the land as an address, and therefor collaborate on the costs?
Are home-based businesses allowed to use the site as a physical address?
These are examples of detailed questions that may be considered if it made sense to purchase land. There may be more questions. It would be an infinitely better idea, if the funding is available, to acquire something rather than to pay an agent for basically doing nothing.
In ancient times, an individual would donate a temple to Fortuna, to the public, on the basis of achieving a success. Donating use of land to like-minded organizations, to commemorate some success, would be a similar activity in the present day.
As for the land listing, this is one of numerous similar examples that may be found in online search.
I feel it’s best for the organization’s address to be associated with someone who believes in the organization and its Goddess, and not merely to fulfill a legal requirement. The website can exist without being attached to an organization. So the only reason for the organization is to empower the premise. Not simply to exist as a legal construct or for the purpose of fluffing someone’s ego.November 13, 2021 at 3:39 pm #42201
I have made a decision to do the annual paperwork and continue the organization at least for a few months to see if a solution for this dilemma materializes.
In the meantime, we definitely need a responsive treasurer, if there is anyone with that sort of experience.
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